What the f@#! is Indie Fiction?
Interstate Indie Fiction - An example of
Indie Fiction in action
A personalised history of Indie Fiction
A talk on Indie Fiction given at the
Swindon Festival of Literature 2008
Roger Frederick Interview with 3AM Magazine
Interstate Indie Fiction - An example of Indie Fiction in
action
Based in West Wales, Interstate Indie Fiction currently
publishes two new contemporary authors Roger Frederick and
Dale Tyler, who both started writing because there were very
few relevant titles in bookshops that they or their friends
wanted to read.
Inspired by the ethos of indie music labels, Interstate
is a cooperative venture where writers work together on editing,
cover design, marketing, etc. Interstate currently uses P.o.D.
with online distribution through Amazon and distribution
to bookshops via Ingram. Interstate used to run an online
bookshop, but found that for a small press the total cost
of handling orders for paperback originals can be greater
than the margins!
In terms of content, Dale Tyler's novels are feisty, in-your-face
comedy aimed at the MySpace/Facebook/Hollyoaks generation.
Roger Frederick's post-punk fiction is a darker fusion of
the suburban and the surreal - Magic Realism meets Factory
Records, if you will.
In common with Indie music, Interstate Fiction is at times
naive and rough round the edges. It doesn't necessarily follow
the narrative blueprints of the larger publishing houses
(with one eye constantly on the TV adaptation/movie rights/Richard & Judy
book club opportunities). However, it does refelect the thoughts
and feelings of two lost generations that fiction publishers
appear to have overlooked between 1979 and 2009.
The constant stumbling block for indie fiction has been
the lack of a central place for the co-ordinated promotion
of alternative authors - there is no literary equivalent
to the John Peel show. On a local level the arts councils
do much to support aspiring authors and small publishers
(Academi, for example, in Wales). However, indie fiction
tends to only make a temporary blip on the national literary
radar, when a book from a small press is nominated for a
high profile literary award.
The lack of imagination and diversity at larger publishers
may be bad bews for the editorial staff who are being shed
in their hundreds. But in the longer term, it may be good
news for smaller publishers who can bypass the trade, sell
online, promote through blogs on social networks, and go
direct from author to reader.
A personalised potted history
of Indie Fiction
Indie fiction aims to be the literary equivalent of the
indie music labels that came to prominence in the aftermath
of punk in the early 1980s and flourish to the present day.
In the music industry, the DIY ethos of the indie labels
provided a vehicle for some legendary - and highly literate
- figures in contemporary music (Ian Curtis, Morrisey, Kurt
Cobain et al) and spawned genres of music now popular with
millions across the globe.
Alternative music labels, such as Factory, Rough Trade and
Profile (NY Hip Hop label launched in 1981), involved small
teams of highly independent and idiosyncratic
individuals. These energetic groups of producers, entrepreneurs
and designers collaborated to create an alternative
to mainstream music - providing a showcase
for the "uncensored" thoughts, emotions and creativity
of indie artists who would otherwise never have been heard.
In the UK, many
of these fledgling record labels and performers owe their
success (in part) to the John Peel radio show, which five
nights a week provided a vital link between the bands and
a post-punk audience hungry for indie music that was radical,
raw and "for real".
The indie fiction scene has
also existed in one form or another for many decades, but
it is much more fragmented and doesn't share (to as great
an extent) the promotional channels that are available to
indie music (e.g. live performance, video). Certainly
there has never really been a centralised show case for indie
fiction in the UK (i.e. no literary equivalent of the John
Peel show).
Many new authors now start life as alternative comedians
or TV presenters, establishing a media profile that makes
them easier to market when they launch their first novel.
But that's not really the indie ethos, which is led and thrives
upon integrity of content, emotion and ID.
Whereas indie labels are respected by the popular music
establishment as a vital force for developing innovative
new talent, DIY and indie publishers are still looked down
upon by the literary establishment, which tends to be more
conservative and is still dominated
by a few narrow fiction genres e.g. romance, horror, mystery,
crime, thriller, teen, sci-fi, etc. In many ways, the publishing
industry in 200x is rather like the music industry was prior
to the punk revolution, which opened the door to a thousand
new genres and created a market for a much wider diversity
of music beyond 'blueprinted' rock, disco, country or ballad.
As time passes one forgets the lack of variety
in music prior to 1976 and the huge diversity produced by
indie labels thereafter - Joy Division/New Order, Dead Kennedies,
The Cure, The Fall, The Specials (Ska), Depeche Mode (Electro
Pop), The Smiths, Run DMC, The Cramps (pychobilly), The
Cocteau Twins (Ambient/Dream Pop) - all unique at the time
and now much imitated.
Given that indie variants exist in most art forms - indie
music, street dance, alternative comedy, contemporary art,
etc - why is the world of literature still so insular, dull
(frankly) and dismissive of alternative fiction?
Historically, new authors have always found it hard
to get published, and have been forced to go it alone, with
literary heavyweights such as D.H. Lawrence, Virginia Wolfe
and James Joyce all being self-published originally.
During the last century many thousands of other writers
have self-published or set up small presses, but relatively
few have then gone on to enjoy mainstream success.
For me, the independent contemporary literary voice perhaps
originated from the war poetry of Wilfred Owen et al who
questioned the status quo, the futility of conflict and importantly
gave a voice to the unseen suffering of the everyday soldier
in the trenches.
Certain post-war writers have also typified
the essense of the independent writer. In the UK this might
include the working class/ lower middle
class intellectual - those of limited formal education and
financial status who are nontheless able to powerfully illuminate
unseen lives and express unheard voices via a literary narrative,
or those who may be more highly educated but choose to indirectly
give voice to the marginalised (as, indeed, Dickens did in
the Victorian era)
Novels such as the Loneliness of the Long Distance
Runner and Saturday Night, Sunday Morning by Alan Sillitoe
and Billy Liar by Keith Waterhouse, are particular inspirations
for my own writing.
In the United States, Catcher in the Rye by J.D. Salinger
is a classic in vocalising the thoughts of a million
disenchanted, misfit teenagers who in more recent times see
their feelings widely echoed by the lyricists of various
post-punk music genres. As such it could also be considered
an important progenitor of indie fiction - the naturalistic
first person narrative much imitated, but arguably never
bettered.
The work of John Steinbeck (Grapes of Wrath, of Mice and
Men) was also notable for giving voice to the unheard migrants
and under dogs of American society. Steinbeck's novel East
of Eden, personified by James Dean on film, could be considered
another antecedant in the story of indie ficiton.
Moving on to the swinging sixties, one book that stands
out in my mind is Midnight Cowboy by James Leo
Herlihy, 1965 (probably largely because of the high profile
of the oscar winning film that was based on it). Its strength
is that is reveals the humaity and sensitivity of people
struggling to survive on the margins of society. This is
another central theme of indie literature - "giving voice
to those who would otherwsise be unheard" - a sharp contrast
to more escapist novels where heros (James
Bond et al) are seemingly invincible, or where happiness
is found through great material wealth or the solving of
a crime or the conquering of a distant planet.
Herlihy,
who became a friend of Anais Nin had studied
at Black Mountain College in the US, which encouraged "alternative
artsists". Although he initially worked as a dramatist, he
produced a few novels and collections of short stories that
also cover indie themes and his affinity with 'the outsider'.
Check out The Sleep of Baby Filbertson and Other Stories,
All Fall Down, A Story That Ends in a Scream and Eight Others
and The Season of the Witch.
In the late sixties there was perhaps a blurring of the
boundaries between alternative and mainstream art with the
imagery and ideas of counter-culture being sold 'over
the counter'. The Avant Garde filtered up from the underground
and was absorbed by the art, film and literature establishment
(illustrating that alternative forms of artistic expression
can sometimes go mass-market). In the late sixties various
psychedelic one hit wonders (Angel Pavement, Tomorrow, Motherlight,
the Smoke, et al) wove their way crazily through major recording
studios, such as Abbey Road. Music and film was truly experimental
(although the lyrics amounted to little more than nonsense
rhymes and movie plots collapsed in random patterns like
the beads in an old-school kaleidescope).
By the turn of
the decade the end of the Vietnam war, high profile
drug casualties, and the Manson atrocities saw the radical
pipe dreams of hippydom start to fade.
In the early seventies some highly influential and original
writers came to prominence. Gabriel Garcia Marquez (One hundred
Years of solitude, etc) and Thomas Pynchon (Gravity's Rainbow)
are two great favourites of mine. However, to return to my
musical analogy, their prose is perhaps more prog rock than
indie.
The die hard alternative bands and radical small
presses did linger on in the underground scene of the early
1970s - a slow flowing, lightly
polluted stream babbling beneath the crudely poured concrete
floor of popular culture. During this period, counter culture
occasionally popped up at free festivals in Stonehenge and
the like, but alternative (indie) art didn't properly explode
to the surface again until 1976 with the advent of punk rock.
An important point to remember is that at this time writers
did not have easy access to the means of production. There
were no home computers. Professional typesetting and
binding was prohibitively expensive. So writers who were
short on funds could only produce shorter works, which might
typically be hand-printed and staple bound. There were plenty
of poetry magazines and fanzines circulating (and these would
occassionally include the odd shorty story). However, it
was difficult for the average alternative writer to publish
and distribute a 400 page novel (although some industrious
authors produced small numbers of hand-made tomes).
In the early 1990s independent presses seemed to gain some
ground. And I recall a large selection of small press title
being available in my local branch of WH Smiths - including
those from Bloodaxe, Serpent's Tail, Canongate, Fourth Estate
and many others. Notable example from my personal library
include:
Generation
X: Tales for an Accelerated Culture (1991) by Douglas Coupland
- an international best seller - all the same it covers
what I would consider as "indie themes" (as do his
his subsequent novels)
Trainspotting (1993) and The Acid House (1994) by Irvine
Welsh
Dreams of Sex and Stage Diving, Martin
Millar, Fourth
Estate (1994) - one of a number of novels by this author
starting in 1987
And the Angel Saw the Ass (1993) by Nick Cave republished
by Henry Rollins (21.3.61)
Vurt, Jeff Noon by Ringpull (1993) - a relatively short-lived
Manchester based small press that showed that
smal presses can launch innovative authors to a wider audience.
Babyfather, Patrick Augustus, X-Press (1994)
- still going strong and aiming to be the "world's leading
black book publisher".
More recently I enjoyed the Taqwacores by Michael Muhammad
Knight, Telegram (2003) - a book about Muslim punks in New
York, orginally published by hand on photocopiers and distributed
in the parking lots of mosques.
In the UK, early titles by some some highly succesful authors
arguably cover indie themes: Jonathan Coe, The Dwarves
of Death (1990, Fourth Estate); Ian McEwan the Cement Garden;
Ian Banks, The Wasp Factory, Espedair Street, Walking on
Glass, the Crow Road, etc.
Interstate managed to shift a few of its early titles directly
through local bookshops during the 1990s - but the discounts
required by retailers and wholesalers, pretty much meant
you would operate at a loss if you tried to scale up your
distribution (a four figure up-front investment was needed
even for short print runs, at a time when jobs were scarce
and salaries were low).
Even so, the post-punk music explosion of DIY music
labels in the early 1980s provided a
blueprint for indie fiction that "sustained the dream" for
me until the means of production and distribution became
available in the 2000s.
Indie music in the mid 80s was typified by obscure bands
sending demo C90s to John Peel and getting write ups in hand
printed fanzines, while in 2009 indie fiction is typified
by obscure authors producing Print on Demand (PoD) books,
sold on Amazon, and promoted via write-ups on community websites
and blogs. But the spirit and ethos of artistic self-determination
is similar.
The indie fiction market remains very fragmented, with a
relatively small number of widely dispersed authors, readers
and publishers.
The latitude festival in the UK with its literature stage
forms a fragile link between the traditional festival-going
indie music audience and the literary establishment. Whether
this is a one-off or the start of a wider trend remains
to be seen.
However, to use this as an analogy of sorts, indie fiction
is perhaps now playing on a small stage somewhere at the
back of the 'publishing festival', rather than just busking
in the road outside.
Certainly, collaborative small presses with an online presence,
such as Interstate Indie Fiction, can provide an island of
opportunity somewhere in the vast ocean that lies between
the large media conglomerates and pure self-publishing.
If electronic book readers (Kindle, etc) ever go mainstream
in the UK, there may be a further opportunity for indie fiction
publishers to reach their audience. But digital distribution
probably cannot ever match the aesthetics of the printed
tome.
Roger Frederick presentation
at Swindon Fesival of Literature 2008
Yea, we play all the big venues... :-)
Intersate Indie Fiction is a small press which aims to be
the literary equivalent of an Indie Music Label. But before
explaining a bit more about Interstate, I'd like you
to picture 2 teenage twins Nicky and Micky.
Now, Nicky and Micky are fortunate enough to have fairly
middle class parents who occasionally took them to the local
libarary and still buy them books for their birthdays.
At their local comprehensive, they've studied the Great
War poets - Dulce Decorum Est - and all that. They've even
been inspired to have a stab at their own angst ridden rhymes:
The world is horrible
It's not fair
Everyone hates me
I don't care
It's a developmental phase most aspiring writers go through
(and one that I'm personally hoping to grow out of by the
time I hit 50)
At this point the twins' paths diverge. Nicky gets a guitar
for her birthday. Micky gets a copy of Catcher in the Rye.
Nicky learns a few chords and starts to write songs. Micky
realises that fiction doesn't have to based on "all
that David Copperfield crap" (as J.D. Salinger put it)
and he sets about penning his semi-autobiographical first
novel.
Over the next few weeks, Nicky gets together with a few
musical friends to jam and is pleased to discover that her
singing voice is not unpleasant to the ear. Micky shuts himself
away as he struggles to think of an opening sentence for
his novel.
The months pass.
Having done a few open mic nights at the local folk club,
Nicky supports a well-known Singer Songwriter at her local
arts centre. She plays 4 of her own songs to an audience
of 250. A couple of the songs go down well, and she sells
20 copies of her home-made demo CD.
Micky doesn't come to the gig. He's at home, rewriting chapter
one of his novel...again.
And so it goes on. From local music festival to support
tour, Nicky gradually evolves as a performer. She becomes
a musical butterfly - a miniature Martin acoustic strapped
to her thorax, admired by all, as she flutters prettily among
the flowers of creative opportunity.
Micky (now on Chapter 4 of his Booker Prize winner) is
more like a snail hidden in the leaf litter at the base of
a damp wall. Occassionally he pops his feelers out of his
shell to look around. He evens sends some sample chapters
off to an agent (who isn't currently considering any new
authors) and a publisher (who doesn't accept unsolicited
manuscripts).
Poor old Mickey. Bravely he tries again, but gets the same
response. And retreats deeper into his shell to escape the
crushing boots of repeated rejection.
Meanwhile the supermarket shelves are stacked with the ghost
written offerings of soap stars, footballers and reality
show contestants. Among them are some readable memoirs by
stand-up comedians.
Micky suspects some of those stand-ups are frustrated writers
who turned to humour as a way to achieve some sort of recognition.
But poor old Micky's not very good at telling jokes, and
he sadly returns to his draft of Chapter 5.
Is Micky's writing any good? How will we ever know?
What we need is a way to give Micky a little hope - to give
him wings (the literary equivalent of Red Bull) - a hyper
caffeinated route out of creative obscurity.
And that in some small way, is what Interstate Indie Fiction
(and similar ventures) are trying to achieve.
Now I spent my formative years listening to John Peel every
night on a battery operated transistor radio under the bedsheets.
In fact, that's what led me to start writing. The sound was
so crackly I could only ever make out half the lyrics. So
as I walked our whippets through the local woods, just down
the road in rural Berkshire, I would fill in the gaps with
lyrics of my own, which turned into poems, short stories
and eventually novels.
I was also greatly inspired by the ethos of the Indie Record
Labels of the 1980s. In particular, I followed the development
of Factory Records from cradle to grave.
Many of you I'm sure will have seen the recent Ian Curtis
biopic, Control. There's one scene where the late great Tony
Wilson signs a contract in his own blood. There's a rare
moment of levity in the film, when Joy Division's manager
pretends that the drummer's name is spelled wrong. With ashen
face, Tony slices his hand open to obtain another nibful
of that special red ink, and promptly keels over.
Now, for sure, Ian Curtis was a great lyricist, and an incredibly
intense performer, but what I really admire about Factory
was the passion and integrity of their team - the designer,
the producer, the band, the manager were all driven by a
desire to make great art, not make great amounts of money.
There was a tremendous synergy between them. And aspiring
writers can learn a lot from that teamwork, self-belief and
passion.
Novel writing is a solitary business. So it's important
for writers to get togther and support each other, through
local arts events, writers group, internet forums, etc.
In a way, Interstate is a self-help group for lonely writers,
whereby individual work is edited by mutual peer review (a
case of I'll show you mine, if you show me yours). Writers
tend to be an insecure bunch and so can in turns be scathingly
bitchy and oversensitive. However, if you can get past that,
it tends to be a very helpful process.
My personal interest is in contemporary fiction and 'alternative'
writing, so I don't get too hung up on religiously following
formulaic narrative structures. Indeed, I was told by one
reviewer that I had violated all ten rules of fiction writing
in the first paragraph of one novel. He was outraged. I took
it as a compliment.
Joking apart of course, there are a list of tips and conventions
that are very, very useful for new authors. But the rules
can be overly prescriptive. New fiction shouldn't simply
follow a 10 page blueprint from an established genre publisher.
What's novel about that? Nor should the commissioning of
new ficiton solely be a high-brow X-factor for the graduates
of creative writing MAs. We need greater literary diversity.
More fresh and distinctive voices.
So, you've written your book. You've used peer review to
polish off the rough edges (without losing the distinctive
flava of your work). What next? How do we create the literary
equivalent of an Indie Label 4 track EP. Well thanks to DTP
and Print on Demand you can professionally produce very short
runs of Paperback Originals for a couple of hundred pounds.
It's not that simple, you need ISBNs, you need cover designs,
you need to be familiar with layout software and creating
PDFs. That's where the self-help philosophy of a writers
cooperative also pays dividends. If you design my cover,
I'll spellcheck your draft. Lets share some ISBNs. And it
works.
A word of caution, if you search on the website, you'll
find plenty of small publishers looking for new authors.
Run by writers for writers offering 50% royalties. Sounds
great. But delve a little deeper and you'll find they're
mainly author services companies who will tell you that your
book is wonderful and then charge you handsomely for everything.
That's not what Interstate is about!
So we've worked together to produce our book.A box has come
back from the printers. Now what do we do with it? How do
we get it into bookshops? Well, to be honest. The economics
of traditional book distribution are against you. Once the
distributor and retailer and printer have taken their cut.
There's little left. You don't have sales team that can go
round aggressively touting your new title. When you do get
you book into shops you can't afford to pay for window diplays,
or to be part of 2 for 3 offers. So should we just give up?
What alternatives are there?
You can also sell online, which is not difficult to set
up. You can participate in arts events and sell direct to
the reader that way. You won't shift huge volumes, but that's
not really the aim.
You need to consider yourself more as an inventor. The paperback
original is your patented prototype. Your pen name is your
brand name. Your author website is your promotional vehicle.
So, in conclusion, the Intersate approach is that writers
should get together
to cooperate on editing and production
use print on demand to produce professional paperback originals
promote them through the web, online readings on YouTube,
through the media, literary events
It doesn't guarantee that a major publisher will immediately
come along and offer you a mass market distribution deal.
But if books are professionally produced, they can be entered
for literary prizes, sent off for review, or waved under
the noses of agents.
These are realistic, achievable goals, and offer a stepping
stone perhaps between having a handwritten manuscript gathering
dust on top of a wardrobe and achieving distribution to a
wider readership.
Anyway, this is just one approach to promoting new authors.
It's not perfect. But hopefully it's provided some ideas
and inspiration, that maybe you can build upon.
Roger Frederick Interview with 3Am Magazine
Interview by Sophie Erskine.
3:AM: My first question is about your book, Of
Lemonade Lizards and Other Brief Trips into Post Punk Fiction.
What is Post Punk Fiction, and why are you so interested
in it?
RF: For me, post-punk fiction is the literary equivalent
of the ‘Indie’ music that appeared in the UK
and late 1970s and early 1980s. It shares the same ethos
and attitude as bands such as Joy Division and the Dead Kennedys
and the others that followed. Before the advent of punk,
music was very predictable and genre-based, and didn’t
reflect the lifestyles, opinions or emotions of millions
of disaffected youths tumbling out of their comprehensives
into the jobless, culturally bereft wasteland of Thatcher’s
Britain. British publishing has never seen this revolution.
There is no high-profile publishing counter-culture. There
has never been a literary equivalent of the John Peel show – a
central place where you can showcase your angst-ridden short
stories or set-flight your fledgling novels.
A few book retailers have created sections within their
stores for independent publishers. Unfortunately, the percentages
that larger retailers and wholesalers take, coupled with
cut-price selling of bestsellers by supermarkets and the
domination of the 2 for 3 tables at the front of bookstores,
make traditional retail a waste of time for small presses.
Fortunately, the web, social networking sites (not to mention
wonderful online magazines such as 3:AM), combined with digital
print on demand, PayPal, and the like, mean that aspiring
authors and publishers can now at least produce, promote
and sell their work outside the constraints of traditional
book retailers.
The large multinational media conglomerates may dismiss
self-publishing as not being proper publishing like what
they do [sic]. And, it’s true, the market for indie
fiction is small and fragmented. But I would always rather
read a rough-edged novel by some aspiring young author with
a cover created on a kitchen table rather than some ghost-written
pile of shit, printed in China and sold in Tesco like tins
of spam.
That’s why I’ve stayed interested all these
years! It’s about expressing, experiences, ideas and
emotions through words; not acquiring this or that literary
prize or shifting x-thousand units.
3:AM: I’ve noticed that your books often involve unconventional
encounters: in Shorts and Dresses, between two journalists
and the widow of a man impaled on screwdrivers; in Of Lemonade
Lizards, between a veteran porn star, a telepathic cat and
a hippy gardener; in The Shrewdness of Apes, between Newton
Driftwood and his beloved Sophie. Are such encounters an
integral part of your fiction? If so, is this because they
are a necessary part of (a good) life?
RF: Absolutely. I’ve always been attracted to people
on the margins of life (those at each end of the bell-shaped
curve) as they are just far more interesting. Seemingly,
society is made up of homogenous groups of people – stereotypes
(flamboyant gay designer, sulky council estate gang member
in the stairwell of a tower block, merchant banker in a gated
community, stay-at-home mum or dad picking up the kids from
school, etc., etc.). We all share the same roads and towns
(and planet), but often seem to be living in parallel universes – mixing
with our own kind. What interests me is when those tracks
deviate and cross and lives collide. People then find they
often have a human affinity for each other. It’s no
great revelation. It’s all really just a variation
on the theme of the prince and the pauper or the film Trading
Places.
In my latest novel a single urban saleswoman with a designer
wardrobe and a go-go-go, deal-chasing lifestyle suddenly
finds herself disfigured, friendless and living in a tiny
and run-down Welsh seaside village. She is still the same
person, but has to morph into a new lifestyle and environment.
She finds that everything she thought was important is actually
completely unimportant. As ever, it’s a rather bleak
story dealing with rather fucked up people, but there’s
a message in there for us all…
3:AM: On your
website, below the blurb for ‘Fishing For Angels’,
you state explicitly: ‘this is not a religious book…’ Is
religion something you’ve deliberately avoided or
rejected? If so, why? Assume I’m open-minded.
RF: Organised religion is irrelevant when you have a basic
grasp of the space-time continuum, quantum theory and the
simple probability that underpins the concept of natural
selection, and when you have the independence of mind to
decide what you believe is wrong and right. For people who
struggle with these concepts and like to be dictated to (the
sheep who graze in the middle of that bell-shaped curve),
religion provides structure and meaning to their lives. It’s
an illusion. When you include the words ‘fishing’ and ‘angels’ in
the title of a book, some may assume it is by a religious
publisher and may end up being offended. I’m not out
to needlessly upset people and have no inclination to argue
about other people’s perceptions of existence. None
of it makes any difference. We’re all just momentary
players in an infinite narrative. I just enjoy writing. It
makes me feel good. I imagine religion, drugs, cruelty, pain,
sport, shopping, luxury chocolate products, etc., offer similar
outlets to others. I don’t avoid or reject any of these
things. The one thing I genuinely hate about some religions
is the way that they subjugate women, denying them self-expression,
education and the freedom to write. Unfortunately, those
centuries-old cultures and practices are hard to escape.
Most people are forced to live their lives a very specific
way by circumstance, necessity and oppression. If you have
a choice to do something different, you really should explore
that.
3:AM: Tell me about Interstate Indie Fiction: what is it,
and what were your motives for establishing it? Go all out,
if you like.
RF: Very simple. I walk into a large branch of Waterstone’s
(a converted chapel, possibly…) and see shelves and
shelves containing thousands of books. I love books. They
are the greatest things in the world. But among those thousands,
nay, millions of titles there is nothing that fits my mind,
my experiences, my feelings. So I have no choice but to write
my own stories and search the internet for other likeminded
souls…
3:AM: How successful have you been at banging the drum for
Indie fiction? Have people listened (or have you just made
a big hole in the drum from banging it too hard)?
RF: Actually, someone once used a similar analogy of a large
rock blocking my path. ‘Roger’, they said, ‘you
can kick that rock as long and hard as you wish, but it will
never shift. All you will ever do is break your toes. Find
yourself another route.’
I say, ‘you can never bang the drum too hard.’ It’s
there waiting for a hole to be made in it! Yeah, I know that
rock ain’t gonna move. But I’m gonna keep fucking
kicking it anyway. That is the raison d’etre of the
post-punk artiste.
God forbid (mild irony) that the rock ever moved. I wouldn’t
know what to do next.
To answer your question from a commercial standpoint: prodigiously
unsuccessful.
3:AM: How… shall we say… open to the world
is Interstate Indie Fiction? Do you read submissions? Do
you accept them?
RF: I’m always happy to receive submissions. However,
Interstate Indie Fiction is a self-help author co-operative
rather than a conventional publisher. That’s a smart-arse
way of saying, ‘I’m always happy to offer advice
on publishing routes and read other people’s work and
add it to the website electronically and promote it through
reading, etc.’ But I don’t have any spare cash
to pay writer’s printing costs. That sounds a bit stingy,
but conversely (and rather self-righteously) I have never
charged anyone a penny for my time, either!
Seriously, though, independent authors should view their
books primarily as a way of sharing their unique world-view
and emotions, and secondly as demo-tapes or prototypes that
they can flaunt to agents and larger publishers. No-one else
has the distribution and marketing infrastructure to generate
a profit (in fact, most of the big companies can’t
make a profit any more, either; ha, ha, fucking ha – another
illusion shattered). It’s good to be outside the system
when the system collapses (I’ve waited thirty years
to feel this smug, but it was worth it!).
Anyway, enough gloating already.
In 2009, in terms of maximising exposure, online blogs are
maybe a better means of communication for aspiring writers.
But it always gladdens my heart when I see fifty copies of
some bound, bitter tome piled futilely on a trestle table
at a fringe art event.
Keep kicking that rock until your feet fall off. That is
the Roger Frederick way.
Consider this: if a million would-be-punk-rockers had never
had the self-belief to send their home-recorded C90s to John
Peel, we’d all be still listening to Disco Duck and
Emerson, Lake and Palmer.
So, keep writing. Keep creating websites to share your literary
wares. Keep the post-punk literary revolution alive. And
maybe, just maybe, one day we’ll have some decent books
to read an’ all.
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